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==Confirmed==
{{3DS}}
 
todo: [https://www.nintendolife.com/news/2022/04/looks-like-nintendo-has-been-reprinting-3ds-retail-games-for-a-final-hurrah 2021 reprints]
 
==Dumped but not datted==
===Consoles===
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! 1st+3rd parts of<br>cart front serial !! Revision !! Name !! Notes !! Cart Pic(s) !! Box Pic(s) !! Screenshot(s)
! Name || Dumped by || Released by || Released on || Release archive info
|-
|-
| LNA-AAAP || 0 || CTR Guide Boot Card || Allegedly tells a Louvre 3DS to read data from the SD Card. Back-serial: AAAPZ10221 || [http://www.nintendemos.com/images/3ds/louvreboot-f.jpg 1]||||
| Louvre 3DS SD card || !unknown || !P2P || Around 2022-09? || <rom name="jumper.7z" size="11844821840" crc="46042b0a" md5="8c2a476a468bd0beb9a4325b0d35e6f2" sha1="7bb29bb7e19b5abed883b0162c31ee93f9699dd1" sha256="08e8e40f31b3b5f57dbf3de58ebbe121ce71f87e93a9e7e76a823798e85f499f" />
|-
|-
| LNZ-ARTP || ? || Rhythm Thief and the Emperor's Treasure (Demo) (Kiosk) || || [http://www.nesworld.com/3ds/democarts/placeholder_lnz-ctr-artp-eur-b.png 1] ||||
| Louvre 3DS NAND and SD Card || Mecasacax || Forest of Illusion || 2022-09-24 || <rom name="Louvre 3DS.7z" size="18346829627" crc="cf869244" md5="5a5d3e05e6334d72624c126c19488395" sha1="e8d0d40d44e8de0f3c191258e4035edb8da53b33" sha256="ff0903476fe04e2053c4d12f434c47d9327897c344076f791bdd879d933908f3" />
|}
 
==Confirmed to exist==
===Revisions===
{| class="wikitable"
! Type !! Serial !! Revision !! Name !! Notes !! Cart Pic(s) !! Box Pic(s) !! Screenshot(s)
|-
|-
| LNZ-BYWP || 0 || Yo-Kai Watch 2 - Bony Spirits - Fleshy Souls (Demo) (Kiosk) |||| [http://forums.no-intro.org/download/file.php?id=5919&mode=view 1] ||||
| LNA || BLSP || 1 || LEGO Ninjago - Shadow of Ronin || Rev 0 is dumped. https://www.ebay.it/itm/133875250190. Bought by mictlantecuhtle. || [[:File:3DS-LNA-BLSP-1-cart front.jpg|front]], [[:File:3DS-LNA-BLSP-1-cart back.jpg|back]] || ||
|}
|}


==Unconfirmed==
===Demos===
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! 1st+3rd parts of<br>cart front serial !! Revision !! Name !! Notes !! Cart Pic(s) !! Box Pic(s) !! Screenshot(s)
! Type || Serial !! Revision !! Name !! Notes !! Cart Pic(s) !! Box Pic(s) !! Screenshot(s)
|-
| LNZ || ARTP || ? || Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure (Europe) (Demo) (Kiosk) || || [[:File:CTR-LNZ-ARTP-cart front.png|1]] || ||
|-
|-
| LNA-AJHP [probably] || >2 || Super Mario Maker for Nintendo 3DS || Nintendo Selects, to be released on 29/06/2018
| LNZ || AL6I || ? || Professor Layton e l'Eredita' degli Aslant, Il (Italy) (Demo) (Kiosk) || || [[:File:CTR-LNZ-AL6I-cart front.png|1]] || ||
|-
|-
| LNA-AYTP [probably] || >0 || Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D || Nintendo Selects, to be released on 29/06/2018
| LNZ || AL6F || 0 || Professeur Layton et l'Héritage des Aslantes (France) (Demo) (Kiosk) || || [[:File:CTR-LNZ-AL6F-cart front.jpg|1]], [[:File:CTR-LNZ-AL6F-cart back.jpg|2]] || ||
|-
|-
| LNA-EAAP [probably] || >0 || Animal Crossing - New Leaf - Welcome Amiibo || Nintendo Selects, to be released on 29/06/2018
| LNZ || AKKH || 0 || Professor Layton en het Masker der Wonderen (Netherlands) (Demo) (Kiosk) || || [[:File:CTR-LNZ-AKKH-cart front.jpg|1]], [[:File:CTR-LNZ-AKKH-cart back.jpg|2]] || ||
|}
|}


==Doesn't Exist==
==Not confirmed to exist==
===Revisions===
<sup>1</sup> revision according to the ROM header - no back of cart photo was provided as the dump was a scene release
 
{| class="wikitable"
{| class="wikitable"
! 1st+3rd parts of<br>cart front serial !! Revision !! Name !! Notes !! Cart Pic(s) !! Box Pic(s) !! Screenshot(s)
! Region !! Type !! Serial !! Revision !! Name !! Notes !! Cart Pic(s) !! Box Pic(s) !! Screenshot(s)
|-
| Europe || LNA || AXCP || 6, 7, 8, 9 || Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS || rev 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 and 11 are dumped. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ASLP || 0, 1 || Scribblenauts Unlimited || Exists on the ~2013 lotcheck sheet, with 0 having the "ROM release date" of 2012-12-19 and 1 having 2013-01-24. Dumped cart is revision 2. The release date was originally 8 Feb, 2013, instead of 6 Dec, 2013. It was reported on news sites that the game was recalled after being sent out to retailers due to something being wrong with the game. It's possible that a copy managed to get out. || || ||
|-
| Germany || LNA || AKKD || 1 || Professor Layton und die Maske der Wunder || Rev 0 is dumped<sup>1</sup>.  || || ||
|-
| France || LNA || AJEF || 1 || Jewel Master - Cradle of Egypt 2 3D || Rev 0 is dumped<sup>1</sup>.  || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AWEP || 1 || WWE All Stars || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ARRP || 1 || Ridge Racer 3D || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AWAP || 2 || Pilotwings Resort || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AMZP || 1 || Mahjong 3D - Warriors of the Emperor || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AMZP || 2 || Mahjong 3D - Warriors of the Emperor || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AECP || 1 || Disney Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion || || || ||  ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AKGP || 1 || Virtue's Last Reward || Rev 0 and 2 are dumped. AKGP-UKV-1 carts are rev 2. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ASZP || 1 || Shifting World || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AH6P || 1 || Heroes of Ruin || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AHKP || 1 || Around the World with Hello Kitty and Friends || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ASEP || 1 || Secrets of the Titanic 1912-2012 || || || ||
|-
|-
| LNA-AQMP[probably] || ? || Gummy Bears Mini Golf || eShop metadata suggested that this had a physical release too, but that was probably an error or the physical release was cancelled.
| Europe || LNA || ASCP || 1 || Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AGRP || 1 || Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AJLP || 1 || Jewel Master: Cradle of Rome 2 || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ABMP || 1 || RESIDENT EVIL THE MERCENARIES 3D || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ABRP || 1 || RESIDENT EVIL REVELATIONS || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ABTP || 1 || BIT.TRIP SAGA || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AASP || 1 || Hidden Expedition - Titanic || Rev 0 and 2 are dumped. || || ||
|-
| Netherlands || LNA || AECX || 1 || Disney Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion || || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ANRP || 0, 1 || Star Fox 64 3D || Rev 2 is dumped, and multiple dumped carts for that have a manufacturing date before the release date. || || ||
|}
|}


{| class="mw-collapsible mw-collapsed wikitable"
! These European Nintendo Selects game boxes have been reported as containing carts with already dumped revisions:
|-
|
Legend of Zelda, The - A Link Between Worlds //rev 0 ([[:File:3DS-LNA-AQEP-Nintendo Selects.jpg|proof]])
Mario & Luigi - Dream Team //rev 1 (Production code AYMPY61192)
Star Fox 64 3D //rev 3 (Production code ANRP953220)
Yoshi's New Island //rev 0 ([[:File:3DS-LNA-ATAP-Nintendo_Selects.jpg|proof]])
Mario Party: Island Tour (by 1988reload on forums)
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D //rev 0 (Production code AYTP580112) (by psykopat on forums)
Kirby - Triple Deluxe //rev 0  (Production code BALP970091) (by psykopat on forums)
Super Mario 3D Land //rev 2 ([https://forum.no-intro.org/download/file.php?id=5828&mode=view semi-proof] from psykopat on forums)
Luigi's Mansion 2 //rev 0 (Production code AGGP970084)  (by psykopat on forums)
Lego City Undercover: The Chase Begins (by 1988reload on forums)
Paper Mario: Sticker Star (by 1988reload on forums)
Style Savvy: Trendsetters (by 1988reload on forums)
Legend of Zelda, The - Ocarina of Time 3D (by 1988reload on forums) (also, NS release unlikely to be new revision as dumped cart manufactured post-NS release date was not new revision)
Animal Crossing - New Leaf //rev 0 ([[:File:3DS-LNA-EAAP-0-cart_front_(nintendo_selects).jpg|proof]], [https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Animal-Crossing-New-Leaf-Welcome-Amiibo-Nintendo-3DS-2013-VGC-COMPLETE/274658650698 ebay page])
Mario Tennis Open //rev 1 ([[:File:3DS-LNA-AGAP-1-cart front (nintendo selects).jpg|proof]], [https://www.ebay.fr/itm/NINTENDO-3DS-2DS-Boite-Notice-Jeu-Mario-Tennis-Open-Version-Selects/284141623729 ebay page])
Nintendogs + Cats - Golden Retriever & New Friends //rev 2 ([[:File:3DS-LNA-ADAP-2-cart back (nintendo selects).jpg|proof]], [https://www.ebay.fr/itm/NINTENDO-3DS-Nintendogs-Golden-Retriver-Et-Ses-Nouveaux-Amis-Cats-TBE/284147627799 ebay link])
Nintendogs + Cats - French Bulldog & New Friends //rev 2 ([[:File:3DS-LNA-ADBP-2-cart back (nintendo selects).jpg|proof]], [https://www.ebay.fr/itm/Jeu-Nintendo-3DS-Nintendogs-Cats-avec-Bouledogue-francais/254805206978 ebay link])
Nintendogs + Cats - Toy Poodle & New Friends //rev 2 ([[:File:3DS-LNA-ADCP-2-cart back (nintendo selects).jpg|proof]], [https://www.ebay.fr/itm/NINTENDO-3DS-Nintendogs-cats-Caniche-Toy-ses-nouveaux-amis/313222214058 ebay link])
|}
===Serial Variants===
<pre>
AMZY0 Mahjong 3D // digital only? marked as "Download Version" on lotcheck sheet
AMZZ0  Mahjong 3D
</pre>
===Demos===
<pre>
ASRP0 Dr. Kawashima's Devilish Brain Training - Can You Stay Focused
ASRP0 SPARTA(tentative) (demo)
ANRP0 Oinari (Tentative) (Demo)
ASRP0 SPARTA(tentative) (demo)
AKKS0 El profesor Layton 5 Demo
AKKI0 Professor Layton 5 Versione demo
AKKH0 Professor Layton 5 Demoversie
AKKF0 Professeur Layton 5 Version démo
AKKD0 Professor Layton 5 Demoversion
</pre>
===Applications===
<pre>
//CTR-P-AAAP is dumped
CTR H AAAP 0 auto-boot CTR updater (EUR)
</pre>
==Probably don't exist==
{| class="wikitable"
! Type !! Serial !! Revision !! Name !! Notes !! Cart Pic(s) !! Box Pic(s) !! Screenshot(s)
|-
| LNA || AQMP || 0 || Gummy Bears Mini Golf || eShop metadata suggested that this had a physical release in addition to the digital one, but that was probably an error or the physical release was cancelled. [https://www.ldlc.com/fiche/PB00142899.html 1] || || ||
|-
| LNA || APLP || 0 || Planet Crashers || Digital only? || || ||
|-
| LNA || AQ9P || 0, 1 || Pokédex 3D Pro || Digital only || || ||
|-
| LNA || AQ7P || 0 || HarmoKnight || Digital only || || ||
|-
| Germany || LNA || AN3D || 0 || Nano Assault || USA and Japan are dumped. Listed on lotcheck sheet. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AN3P || 0 || Nano Assault ||  USA and Japan are dumped. Listed on lotcheck sheet. No evidence of existence. Listed on GameFAQs as cancelled. || || ||
|-
| Germany || LNA || APZD || 0 || Pet Zombies || USA is dumped. Listed on lotcheck sheet. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || APZP || 0 || Pet Zombies || USA is dumped. Listed on lotcheck sheet. No evidence of existence. Listed on GameFAQs as cancelled. || || ||
|-
| Germany || LNA || AFCD || 0 || Face Racers: Photo Finish || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Germany || LNA || AHDD || 0 || The Hidden || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AHDP || 0 || The Hidden || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ASHP || 0 || Mahjong Cub3D || USA and Japan are dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ACPP || 0 || Centipede Infestation || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. Listed on GameFAQs as cancelled. || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AGSP || 0 || Gem Smashers || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || APKP || 0 || My Pet Puppy 3D || USA is dumped, and has gamecode '''AMY'''E. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AJWP || 0 || Jaws Ultimate Predator || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || ABWP || 0 || Brunswick Pro Bowling || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AB5P || 0 || Bratz: Fashion Boutique || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe || LNA || AC2P || 0 || Crash City Mayhem || USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|-
| Europe (Alt) || LNA || AHLP || 0 || Hello Kitty Picnic with Sanrio Characters || Europe is dumped. No evidence of existence. || || ||
|}
[[Category:Missing Lists]]
[[Category:Missing Lists]]

Latest revision as of 09:36, 21 October 2024

Nintendo - Nintendo 3DS
Physical: WorldJapanUSAEuropeAustraliaKoreaTaiwan • (MIA)

Digital: All regions


(Dumping guide)


todo: 2021 reprints

Dumped but not datted

Consoles

Name Dumped by Released by Released on Release archive info
Louvre 3DS SD card !unknown !P2P Around 2022-09? <rom name="jumper.7z" size="11844821840" crc="46042b0a" md5="8c2a476a468bd0beb9a4325b0d35e6f2" sha1="7bb29bb7e19b5abed883b0162c31ee93f9699dd1" sha256="08e8e40f31b3b5f57dbf3de58ebbe121ce71f87e93a9e7e76a823798e85f499f" />
Louvre 3DS NAND and SD Card Mecasacax Forest of Illusion 2022-09-24 <rom name="Louvre 3DS.7z" size="18346829627" crc="cf869244" md5="5a5d3e05e6334d72624c126c19488395" sha1="e8d0d40d44e8de0f3c191258e4035edb8da53b33" sha256="ff0903476fe04e2053c4d12f434c47d9327897c344076f791bdd879d933908f3" />

Confirmed to exist

Revisions

Type Serial Revision Name Notes Cart Pic(s) Box Pic(s) Screenshot(s)
LNA BLSP 1 LEGO Ninjago - Shadow of Ronin Rev 0 is dumped. https://www.ebay.it/itm/133875250190. Bought by mictlantecuhtle. front, back

Demos

Type Serial Revision Name Notes Cart Pic(s) Box Pic(s) Screenshot(s)
LNZ ARTP ? Rhythm Thief & the Emperor's Treasure (Europe) (Demo) (Kiosk) 1
LNZ AL6I ? Professor Layton e l'Eredita' degli Aslant, Il (Italy) (Demo) (Kiosk) 1
LNZ AL6F 0 Professeur Layton et l'Héritage des Aslantes (France) (Demo) (Kiosk) 1, 2
LNZ AKKH 0 Professor Layton en het Masker der Wonderen (Netherlands) (Demo) (Kiosk) 1, 2

Not confirmed to exist

Revisions

1 revision according to the ROM header - no back of cart photo was provided as the dump was a scene release

Region Type Serial Revision Name Notes Cart Pic(s) Box Pic(s) Screenshot(s)
Europe LNA AXCP 6, 7, 8, 9 Super Smash Bros. for Nintendo 3DS rev 0, 1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 10 and 11 are dumped.
Europe LNA ASLP 0, 1 Scribblenauts Unlimited Exists on the ~2013 lotcheck sheet, with 0 having the "ROM release date" of 2012-12-19 and 1 having 2013-01-24. Dumped cart is revision 2. The release date was originally 8 Feb, 2013, instead of 6 Dec, 2013. It was reported on news sites that the game was recalled after being sent out to retailers due to something being wrong with the game. It's possible that a copy managed to get out.
Germany LNA AKKD 1 Professor Layton und die Maske der Wunder Rev 0 is dumped1.
France LNA AJEF 1 Jewel Master - Cradle of Egypt 2 3D Rev 0 is dumped1.
Europe LNA AWEP 1 WWE All Stars
Europe LNA ARRP 1 Ridge Racer 3D
Europe LNA AWAP 2 Pilotwings Resort
Europe LNA AMZP 1 Mahjong 3D - Warriors of the Emperor
Europe LNA AMZP 2 Mahjong 3D - Warriors of the Emperor
Europe LNA AECP 1 Disney Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion
Europe LNA AKGP 1 Virtue's Last Reward Rev 0 and 2 are dumped. AKGP-UKV-1 carts are rev 2.
Europe LNA ASZP 1 Shifting World
Europe LNA AH6P 1 Heroes of Ruin
Europe LNA AHKP 1 Around the World with Hello Kitty and Friends
Europe LNA ASEP 1 Secrets of the Titanic 1912-2012
Europe LNA ASCP 1 Tom Clancy's Splinter Cell 3D
Europe LNA AGRP 1 Tom Clancy's Ghost Recon Shadow Wars
Europe LNA AJLP 1 Jewel Master: Cradle of Rome 2
Europe LNA ABMP 1 RESIDENT EVIL THE MERCENARIES 3D
Europe LNA ABRP 1 RESIDENT EVIL REVELATIONS
Europe LNA ABTP 1 BIT.TRIP SAGA
Europe LNA AASP 1 Hidden Expedition - Titanic Rev 0 and 2 are dumped.
Netherlands LNA AECX 1 Disney Epic Mickey: Power of Illusion
Europe LNA ANRP 0, 1 Star Fox 64 3D Rev 2 is dumped, and multiple dumped carts for that have a manufacturing date before the release date.


These European Nintendo Selects game boxes have been reported as containing carts with already dumped revisions:
Legend of Zelda, The - A Link Between Worlds //rev 0 (proof)
Mario & Luigi - Dream Team //rev 1 (Production code AYMPY61192)
Star Fox 64 3D //rev 3 (Production code ANRP953220)
Yoshi's New Island //rev 0 (proof)
Mario Party: Island Tour (by 1988reload on forums)
Donkey Kong Country Returns 3D //rev 0 (Production code AYTP580112) (by psykopat on forums)
Kirby - Triple Deluxe //rev 0  (Production code BALP970091) (by psykopat on forums)
Super Mario 3D Land //rev 2 (semi-proof from psykopat on forums)
Luigi's Mansion 2 //rev 0 (Production code AGGP970084)  (by psykopat on forums)
Lego City Undercover: The Chase Begins (by 1988reload on forums)
Paper Mario: Sticker Star (by 1988reload on forums)
Style Savvy: Trendsetters (by 1988reload on forums)
Legend of Zelda, The - Ocarina of Time 3D (by 1988reload on forums) (also, NS release unlikely to be new revision as dumped cart manufactured post-NS release date was not new revision)
Animal Crossing - New Leaf //rev 0 (proof, ebay page)
Mario Tennis Open //rev 1 (proof, ebay page)
Nintendogs + Cats - Golden Retriever & New Friends //rev 2 (proof, ebay link)
Nintendogs + Cats - French Bulldog & New Friends //rev 2 (proof, ebay link)
Nintendogs + Cats - Toy Poodle & New Friends //rev 2 (proof, ebay link)

Serial Variants

AMZY0	Mahjong 3D // digital only? marked as "Download Version" on lotcheck sheet
AMZZ0   Mahjong 3D

Demos

ASRP0	Dr. Kawashima's Devilish Brain Training - Can You Stay Focused
ASRP0	SPARTA(tentative) (demo)
ANRP0	Oinari (Tentative) (Demo)
ASRP0	SPARTA(tentative) (demo)
AKKS0	El profesor Layton 5 Demo
AKKI0	Professor Layton 5 Versione demo
AKKH0	Professor Layton 5 Demoversie
AKKF0	Professeur Layton 5 Version démo
AKKD0	Professor Layton 5 Demoversion

Applications

//CTR-P-AAAP is dumped
CTR	H	AAAP	0	auto-boot CTR updater (EUR)

Probably don't exist

Type Serial Revision Name Notes Cart Pic(s) Box Pic(s) Screenshot(s)
LNA AQMP 0 Gummy Bears Mini Golf eShop metadata suggested that this had a physical release in addition to the digital one, but that was probably an error or the physical release was cancelled. 1
LNA APLP 0 Planet Crashers Digital only?
LNA AQ9P 0, 1 Pokédex 3D Pro Digital only
LNA AQ7P 0 HarmoKnight Digital only
Germany LNA AN3D 0 Nano Assault USA and Japan are dumped. Listed on lotcheck sheet. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA AN3P 0 Nano Assault USA and Japan are dumped. Listed on lotcheck sheet. No evidence of existence. Listed on GameFAQs as cancelled.
Germany LNA APZD 0 Pet Zombies USA is dumped. Listed on lotcheck sheet. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA APZP 0 Pet Zombies USA is dumped. Listed on lotcheck sheet. No evidence of existence. Listed on GameFAQs as cancelled.
Germany LNA AFCD 0 Face Racers: Photo Finish USA is dumped. No evidence of existence.
Germany LNA AHDD 0 The Hidden USA is dumped. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA AHDP 0 The Hidden USA is dumped. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA ASHP 0 Mahjong Cub3D USA and Japan are dumped. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA ACPP 0 Centipede Infestation USA is dumped. No evidence of existence. Listed on GameFAQs as cancelled.
Europe LNA AGSP 0 Gem Smashers USA is dumped. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA APKP 0 My Pet Puppy 3D USA is dumped, and has gamecode AMYE. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA AJWP 0 Jaws Ultimate Predator USA is dumped. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA ABWP 0 Brunswick Pro Bowling USA is dumped. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA AB5P 0 Bratz: Fashion Boutique USA is dumped. No evidence of existence.
Europe LNA AC2P 0 Crash City Mayhem USA is dumped. No evidence of existence.
Europe (Alt) LNA AHLP 0 Hello Kitty Picnic with Sanrio Characters Europe is dumped. No evidence of existence.